[MB] RE: mb digest, Vol 1 #663 - 7 msgs

[Carvell, Mark]

Hi all,

I use this forum software for another interest I have (Radio Controlled Helicopters.....) and there is an option that can be set by the admin person to "view posts since last visit"

So you log on to the forum hit that one button and you see a list of all posts you haven't read. Its brilliant and saves any messing about trying to find posts you might have missed.

Helen could you investigate getting this button added to the front page. I'm sure this will win some more people over.

Thanks & Regards

Mark

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Today's Topics:

1. Moving this list to a forum? (Helen Evans)
2. Re: Moving this list to a forum? (Alex Frazer-Harrison)
3. Re: Moving this list to a forum? (Karl-Heinz Herrmann)
4. Re: Moving this list to a forum? (P Woods, Client Services)
5. Re: Moving this list to a forum? (Gretchen Kopmanis)
6. Re: Moving this list to a forum? (Stray Taoist)
7. Re: Moving this list to a forum? (Kev)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:50:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Helen Evans" <***@sevatech.com>
To: ***@ifi.uio.no
Reply-To: ***@sevatech.com
Subject: [MB] Moving this list to a forum?

Hi there everyone
I was wondering if you'd be interested in moving this mailing list to a
forum. There seem to have been some problems lately with joining and
leaving the list, as well as the archives going missing, and while I don't
want to shanghai the list and/or step on anyone's toes, I'd hate for the
list use to dwindle because of technical problems.

So now that there's such easy technology... I've gone ahead and thrown
together a forum that you can check out, if you're interested; please let
me know what you think. The site seems very easy to use, and this way we
wouldn't have to hunt through archives for older stuff, it's all right
there.

http://modestyblaise.forumotion.net/forum.htm

Right now it's set up that you don't have to register or be a member,
although security options can be changed.

..thoughts, comments?

Cheers!
Helen

http://modestyblaise.greboguru.org/




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:57:57 -0600
Subject: Re: [MB] Moving this list to a forum?
From: Alex Frazer-Harrison <***@shaw.ca>
To: MB group <***@ifi.uio.no>
charset="US-ASCII"

Hi Helen

I would certainly support this going to a forum format. One problem I've
encountered (it may even happen with this e-mail) is having messages not go
through because of formatting issues. Plus, anyone who hits "reply"
generally just ends up sending e-mail to the person who sent the message and
not to the group. I've received numerous replies to posts I've made that
were clearly intended for the group but ended up just going to me. I think
there's probably been quite a bit of one-sided conversations as a result.

I like the forum idea - including the fact we can set up different
discussion topics, keep track of who is talking about what, etc. At the same
time forum pages aren't as likely to be suddenly deleted (the way Yahoo
Groups deleted the Modesty Blaise discussion group a few years ago). And I'm
sure everyone appreciates having fewer e-mails to contend with. Count me in!

Cheers!

Alex

Hi there everyone
I was wondering if you'd be interested in moving this mailing list to a
forum. There seem to have been some problems lately with joining and
leaving the list, as well as the archives going missing, and while I don't
want to shanghai the list and/or step on anyone's toes, I'd hate for the
list use to dwindle because of technical problems.
So now that there's such easy technology... I've gone ahead and thrown
together a forum that you can check out, if you're interested; please let
me know what you think. The site seems very easy to use, and this way we
wouldn't have to hunt through archives for older stuff, it's all right
there.
http://modestyblaise.forumotion.net/forum.htm
Right now it's set up that you don't have to register or be a member,
although security options can be changed.
...thoughts, comments?
Cheers!
Helen
http://modestyblaise.greboguru.org/

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:41:01 +0200
From: Karl-Heinz Herrmann <***@khherrmann.de>
To: ***@ifi.uio.no
Subject: Re: [MB] Moving this list to a forum?

Hi Helen,

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:50:55 -0700 (PDT)

I was wondering if you'd be interested in moving this mailing list to
a forum.

Personally -- I prefer the mailing list (which probalby also dates me).
But additionally this list is hosted by an MB fan at an university site
where Thomas (said fan) is probably on a permanent position --
therefore this list should have some long-time support unlike yahoo and
any other free hosting service which have a tendency to go in and out
of business -- or change their business model -- rather quickly.

There seem to have been some problems lately with joining and
leaving the list, as well as the archives going missing, and while I

Hm... personally I've not experienced problems with sending messages,
or (un)subscribing. Archives are indeed not working properly right now
-- I can login and see a list of monthly archives. But all links (by
thread, author,...) are dead, only the gzipped-archive download works.
But those *do* contain messages back till 2000.
you can find the whole thing here (~1MB), 2000 till today:
http://khherrmann.de/MB/mb_archive.zip

I would like to give Thomas some time to react to these problems or
requests -- he might be on vacation or plain busy.

For posting problems remember: no html, no attachements -- if you can
choose a color or font size its html. Also you *have* to send with the
same From-adress as you subscribed with.

don't want to shanghai the list and/or step on anyone's toes, I'd
hate for the list use to dwindle because of technical problems.

Well -- Forum and mailing list are two different media in any case --
go ahead with the forum. I might even peak in from time to time :-)
Depending on the available forum features it might offer a place for
pic exchange again which has gone missing with the mysterious death of
the yahoo group.


K.-H.


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:56:04 +0100
From: "P Woods, Client Services" <***@bristol.ac.uk>
Reply-To: Paul Woods <***@bristol.ac.uk>
To: Karl-Heinz Herrmann <***@khherrmann.de>, ***@ifi.uio.no
Subject: Re: [MB] Moving this list to a forum?

Personally -- I prefer the mailing list

For what it's worth, I agree.

I used to subscribe to a work-related mailing list that transmogrified into
a forum. I hardly ever see it now, even though it's well arranged as
forums go. I don't have the convenience of having new items pop in my
mailbox, to be bought to my attention. It's a real effort to seek out and
delve the forum.

No, my vote is to keep the long-standing list.

wudzi

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Message: 5
From: Gretchen Kopmanis <***@umich.edu>
To: ***@ifi.uio.no
Subject: Re: [MB] Moving this list to a forum?
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:39:31 -0400

If someone is taking count of the votes, then count me down for the
mail group. I really dislike forums. There's too much 'poking about'
to see what I want to see.

Sadly, I have to admit, that if this list goes into a forum, I would
probably drop it. I simply don't have time to do that much searching
in different "rooms" in a forum to see what folks are saying. I'm a
big Harry Potter fan and the reason I don't participate is because
everything is in forum mode. Frankly, they do need it, but there
simply isn't enough chatter on this particular list to make a forum
worth while, IMO.

Just my .02 cents.....
-gkk



On Sep 24, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Helen Evans wrote:

Hi there everyone
I was wondering if you'd be interested in moving this mailing list to a
forum. There seem to have been some problems lately with joining and
leaving the list, as well as the archives going missing, and while I
don't
want to shanghai the list and/or step on anyone's toes, I'd hate for the
list use to dwindle because of technical problems.

So now that there's such easy technology... I've gone ahead and thrown
together a forum that you can check out, if you're interested; please
let
me know what you think. The site seems very easy to use, and this way we
wouldn't have to hunt through archives for older stuff, it's all right
there.

http://modestyblaise.forumotion.net/forum.htm

Right now it's set up that you don't have to register or be a member,
although security options can be changed.

..thoughts, comments?

Cheers!
Helen

http://modestyblaise.greboguru.org/








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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:12:35 -0700
From: Stray Taoist <***@straytoaster.co.uk>
To: ***@ifi.uio.no
Subject: Re: [MB] Moving this list to a forum?

If someone is taking count of the votes, then count me down for the
mail group. I really dislike forums. There's too much 'poking about'
to see what I want to see.
Sadly, I have to admit, that if this list goes into a forum, I would
probably drop it. I simply don't have time to do that much searching
in different "rooms" in a forum to see what folks are saying. I'm a
big Harry Potter fan and the reason I don't participate is because
everything is in forum mode. Frankly, they do need it, but there
simply isn't enough chatter on this particular list to make a forum
worth while, IMO.

I entirely agree. (And, as was said earlier, probably dates me.) I have to
manually fire up a browser if I want to look at something, but always have a
terminal with my mail in it open. Which leads me to HTML-only emails. Don't
do it, kids, as I for one won't see it (regardless of whatever RFCs it breaks
as well...) I use mutt, so the mailing list works for me. But I am not your
target demographic if you are talking about browser-based stuff :)

m.
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http://weblog.straytoaster.co.uk/ # Gotta have a weblog. It is the law.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/straytoaster # All the cool kids have photostreams
http://www.myspace.com/thirtyspokes # talent not included


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:42:43 +0100
From: Kev <***@summercountry.demon.co.uk>
To: ***@ifi.uio.no
Subject: Re: [MB] Moving this list to a forum?

Hi all

Why does it have to be either / or?

In the great tradition of open source software, let there be a list for
those that prefer it, and let there be a forum for those that prefer it.
If only one flourishes then so be it. If they both flourish then
everyone benefits.

Kevin



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[Alex Frazer-Harrison]

Hi again all

Now, see, this is the first I've seen of a "digest" option. And I wonder if
in fact some of the formalized things I made mention of in my last post
might already exist.

Perhaps some of the issues I mention - the "reply to" problem, the "posts
withheld" problem - might be fixable at the group settings level, in which
case we don't have to go through the whole forum vs. e-mail issue...

Cheers!

Alex

Post by Carvell, Mark
Hi all,
I use this forum software for another interest I have (Radio Controlled
Helicopters.....) and there is an option that can be set by the admin person
to "view posts since last visit"
So you log on to the forum hit that one button and you see a list of all posts
you haven't read. Its brilliant and saves any messing about trying to find
posts you might have missed.
Helen could you investigate getting this button added to the front page. I'm
sure this will win some more people over.
Thanks & Regards
Mark

[Julie Berk]

Just a reminder that Peter O'Donnell's son-in-law and grandson will be
joining us as will Lawrence Blackmore, author of the Modesty Blaise
Companion.

I still don't have many RSVPs :(

[Emma Wheeler]

Julie,

Just to confirm I'll definitely be there, can't remember if you had my name down already.

best wishes,
Emma

Subject: [MB] special guests on the walk Oct 11th
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 5:57 PM
Just a reminder that Peter O'Donnell's son-in-law
and grandson will be
joining us as will Lawrence Blackmore, author of the
Modesty Blaise
Companion.
I still don't have many RSVPs :(

[Alice Brax]

Julie,
I hope you have my name down as well.
I'm so looking forward to the walk.

best wishes,
Alice Brax

Subject: [MB] special guests on the walk Oct 11th
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 5:57 PM
Just a reminder that Peter O'Donnell's son-in-law
and grandson will be
joining us as will Lawrence Blackmore, author of the
Modesty Blaise
Companion.
I still don't have many RSVPs :(